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Post  bk360 Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:20 pm

I dont exacty think its fair.. id say

30x30 = 60 gold
40x40 = 80 gold
50x50 = 100 gold
60x60 = 120 gold
70x70 = 140 gold
80x80 = 160 gold
90x90 = 180 gold
100x100= 200 gold

30x30x30 = 120 gold
40x40x40 = 160 gold
50x50x50 = 200 gold
60x60x60 = 240 gold
70x70x70 = 280 gold
80x80x80 = 320 gold
90x90x90 = 360 gold
100x100x100= 400 gold

Also If you want to add a Z axis(up and down) is should be..
I want 30 blocks going up and down thats 60 gold. why? because your getting Double the space no just one direction, so if you wanted to spend 15gold you woud have 15blocks up and 15 blocks down. Its reasonable.

Just because one person wants to be able to have a Z axis(up/down) dosent mean the prices should raise for everyone, it should be a choice..
Also you could always ask for going down in ONE direction say you want 30x30x30 so thats 30x30 X and Y axis then they want 30 going down, not 15up and 15down.

Feel free to post what you think!~ if you agree select "yes" or "No" on my Mirror post. Very Happy

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Post  jaotusv6rk Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:56 pm

the big idea after all of this price change is that the price for a block should stay the same in every case.

Now im just going to take your prices and calculate the blocks for gold ratio-

30x30 = 60 gold (900 for 60/ 15 blocks for 1 g)
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100x100= 200 gold (10 000 for 200/ 50 blocks for 1g)

30x30x30 = 120 gold (2100 for 120 / 17.5 blocks for 1 gold/ 0.58(3) blocks on surface for 1 gold)
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100x100x100= 400 gold (1 000 000 for 400/ 2500 blocks for 1 gold/25 blocks on surface for 1 gold)

Do you see why this is unfair?

That is the exact same problem i am opposing- the prices are lower for the more land you buy.

The prices should stay the same for every cube you buy, for it to be fair.
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Post  bk360 Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:45 pm

its discounted, it is fair because the more you save the more it is, it takes way longer to ger 100x100x100 than 10x10x10

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Post  BlackHayate Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:20 pm

per cube when adjusting for Z axis;

30x30x30 = 27,000 cubes³ = 120 gold
1³ = 0.00444 gold

40x40x40 = 64,000 cubes³ = 160 gold
1³ = 0.0025 gold

50x50x50 = 125,000 cubes³ =200
1³ = 0.0016 gold

factor in that most towns are not exactly shaped like a box, but more rectangluar and pyramid like with the tallest structure in the middle, how would you calculate the price for a town, say Egg which is say 50x35x96? Your suggestion does not have any way of adjusting for this kind of scenario. Also your forcing towns to not have a vertical tower flag becuase they would be forced to pay a fair amount of more gold for a simple 1x1x10 tower.

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Post  jaotusv6rk Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:30 am

im saying ...

We must have a certain price for a certain cube on the ground and that cube in its price must consist of the air above and the ground below...
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Post  bk360 Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:47 am

If these prices should be changed, it must be fair that all cities be removed of protection OR they have half of it, why? because it wouldnt be fair since they didnt pay these high prices.. As soon as i and teammates8 got our gold back the server went down and we couldnt buy anything so.. if its going to be fair I think it must be fair on all of us..

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Post  BlackHayate Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:11 am

bk360 wrote:If these prices should be changed, (a)it must be fair that all cities be removed of protection OR they have half of it, why? (b)because it wouldnt be fair since they didnt pay these high prices.. As soon as i and teammates8 got our gold back the server went down and we couldnt buy anything so.. if its going to be fair I think it must be fair on all of us..

a) No. This is not fair in anyway possible. They got their protection before we decided to adjust the prices and fall under a grandfather clause of it wont affect their current city protection, unless they want to expand Don't give a ridiculously bad price of land then QQ about them getting cities first.

b) They didn't pay these prices because they actually went ahead and built cities in the start. An initial city of 20x20 only got an increase of 2.5 gold, the giant leap that a 40x40 city got for 30 gold can easily be gotten from Arena City Fights/Challenges and etc. Neither did you try to adjust for odd-sized cities that were not a Cube.

The biggest reason your 'suggestion' of new city prices is going to fail is your making ridiculous amount of work for mods when they have to protect a city by adjusting for Z coordinates. As it is right now, mods walk in two directions, X and Y axis and anything inbetween two sets can be figured out to a certain extent, i.e. 25x35 is roughly 15 gold if you add the two then divide by 2. Your suggestion of putting in Z axis and NOT making a proper price per cube makes three dimensional cities ridiculously hard to figure out the price for.

Seriously, whats the price of a city that is 30x40x55?

or for that matter a 20x20x(-50) area?

currently we're trying to find a fair price for everyone so that 1 person doesnt buy them self a 100x100 area with 50 gold like what that idiot icor tried to do. Obviously we dont expect you guys to mine for all this gold yourselves, but we are willing to host tournaments for cities and challenges for you to obtain this gold. If you want to establish a city, go to the city subforum and post your city name and everything. Eventually an admin (Sasha or Neo) will make a subforum for your city

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